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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Nov 13, 2011 5:17pm
Forum: occupywallstreet Subject: OWS Is Hurting The 99%! NYC's Honest, Local Businessmen Are Suffering!

also, more thugs attacking cops:

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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: Nov 14, 2011 11:43am
Forum: occupywallstreet Subject: Re: Our Future Is Hurting - Planet Earth IS Suffering!

Crimes Against Humanity - Who's Suffering? How? Why? When? Where?

97% of Scientists on Planet Earth Believe Global Warming IS REAL!

NASA Scientific Visualization Shows Averaged Gobal Temperature Anomalies

• Data provided by Robert B. Schmunk (NASA/GSFC GISS) •
• NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center Scientific Visualization Studio •

play the NASA Scientific Visualization video - MP4 track - 00:26

image shows global temperature anomalies averaged from 2006 to 2010



Tell President Obama to kill the Keystone XL Pipeline
- (see how Wall Street is Occupying the White House) -

"Hot: Living Through the Next Fifty Years on Earth"
interview with Mark Hertsgaard

Mark Hertsgaard is an investigative reporter who has worked for more than 20 years on climate change. His new book is Hot: Living Through the Next Fifty Years on Earth. Well, Mark Hertsgaard decided to take his questions directly to Congress. He was accompanied by several members of Generation Hot, about two billion young people, all of whom have grown up under global warming and will spend the rest of their lives confronting its mounting impacts. Mark ventured up to Capitol Hill to confront key climate denialists:

MARK HERTSGAARD: I just want to ask you some questions —


MARK HERTSGAARD: — about climate science, and I know you have a lot of opinions about it.

SEN. JAMES INHOFE: Sure, sure.

MARK HERTSGAARD: Why does your party continue to deny what the National Academy of Sciences and virtually every major scientific organization in the world — [97 per cent of The World's Climate Scientists believe Global Warming is REAL!]

SEN. JAMES INHOFE: You know, you ask the same question over and over and over again. The science is mixed. We all know the science is mixed. The economy is not mixed.

MARK HERTSGAARD: When all of the scientific organizations in the world and every political party in the world, but your own, admits that climate change is happening, it’s real, and it’s dangerous, why does your party keep insisting that it’s not?

SEN. JAMES INHOFE: That’s not — you’re wrong on that. The science is mixed on that. And you know it.

MARK HERTSGAARD: I do not know that, sir.


Only brainwashed Americans are less sure about scientists' beliefs!
According to this 2010 Gallup Poll

HOT MEMBER: I don’t understand why my generation has to suffer because it sounds like you’re not liking what you’re hearing.

MARK HERTSGAARD: You know what one of the most famous Republicans in this country said? That when 98 doctors tell me that my son needs a life-saving operation, and two doctors say that he doesn’t, I go with the 98. So what do you say about that?

SEN. JAMES INHOFE: You know, when you ask that question about, you know, "what if you’re wrong?" stop and think about it. What if you’re wrong?

JUAN GONZALEZ: That was Mark talking to Republican Senator Inhofe. Mark decided to take his — your response to what he said there?

MARK HERTSGAARD: You know, he knows his lines pretty well. And he’s going to stick with them. And that’s really the problem. They are climate cranks. They like to be called "climate skeptics." And the media, I’m very sorry to say — the mainstream media, at least — calls them climate skeptics. They are not skeptics. Genuine skeptics are invaluable to science. That’s how science progresses, is with skepticism. But a true skeptic can be persuaded by evidence. They cannot. They have made up their minds for economic reasons or ideological reasons that they’re not going to believe in this. And because our country has allowed them to dominate the debate for 20 years, we’re now stuck with 50 more years of rising temperatures. We’re not locked in. My daughter, the rest of Generation Hot, are locked in to living under the hottest, most volatile climate our civilization has ever known. And that is a crime.

AMY GOODMAN: The last three chapters of your book, as we wrap up, "How Will We Feed Ourselves?" "While the Rich Avert Their Eyes," and "'This Was a Crime.'" Put it together for us.

MARK HERTSGAARD: "How will we feed ourselves?" is going to be one of the big questions, because as temperature go up, it’s going to be harder to grow food. And, of course, Monsanto wants to tell us that the way to deal with that is with genetically modified seeds. That’s the worst way to deal with it. The fact is, is that organic agriculture is probably going to be our best bet. It’s the most resilient in the case of extreme weather.

"While the Rich Avert Their Eyes" — you did it at the top of the segment: Todd Stern, the United States, has been saying the same thing for 20 years: "You know, we’re not going to do this. It’s unworkable." Well, we’re the ones who caused this problem. We didn’t know we were doing it, when my dad’s generation and before. But, you know, in a legal court of law, as Mr. Stern, a lawyer himself, must know, it does not matter if you didn’t know you were burning down your neighbor’s house — you still have to pay for it.

And I repeat. "This was a crime" is actually a phrase that came from the chief climate adviser to the, again, Conservative government in Germany, a man named John Schellnhuber, who looked at how the United States has refused to act in the last 20 years, despite the overwhelming scientific evidence. And he, too, like me, is the father of a young child. And we were talking about what we expected for our children in the next 20 to 30 years, and he said, "This was a crime." And I think that, you know, we need to hold the criminals responsible. My daughter and the rest of her generation have been given a life sentence for a crime they did not commit, and it is time to go get the people who did commit it.

Why is the FBI not prosecuting Goldman Sachs?


How Goldman Sachs secretly bet on the U.S. housing crash
By Greg Gordon | McClatchy Newspapers | Posted on Sunday, November 1, 2009
Read the full article on McClatchy's web site
• Goldman Sachs peddled $40 billion as triple-A rated investments. These mortgage-backed securities were closer to junk. This is fraud and should be prosecuted.

Moodys, Fitch, Standard & Poors


Why is the FBI not prosecuting the Ratings Agencies?

How Moody's sold its ratings - and sold out investors
By Kevin G. Hall | McClatchy Newspapers | Posted on Sunday, October 18, 2009
Read the full article on McClatchy's web site
• The ratings agencies didn't bother to scrutinize the loans that were being pooled into these bonds. Instead, they relied on malleable mathematical models that proved worthless. (In others words, They Lied! Collusion? Conspiracy? Lying to Congress?)

Wall Street's Unregulated Derivatives Trading hit Record $681 Trillion in Q3 2007! Over-the-counter Trading of these complex and risky Unregulated Derivatives continues today!

The crash of September 2008 brought the largest bankruptcies in world history, pushing more than 30 million people into unemployment and bringing many countries to the edge of insolvency. Wall Street turned back the clock to 1929!

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Poster: NoiseCollector Date: Nov 15, 2011 9:03am
Forum: occupywallstreet Subject: Re: Our Future Is Hurting - Planet Earth IS Suffering!

More statistics

Britney Spears has sold over 100 million records worldwide

The Flat Earth Society was started in 1956

The current administration has accumulated more debt than all the other presidents combined...

More is not necessarily better...

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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: Nov 14, 2011 11:53am
Forum: occupywallstreet Subject: Re: Thanks to the Koch Brothers - Planet Earth IS Suffering!

01 Nov 2011 - Koch Bros-funded Climate Change Skeptic Admits Global Warming is Real!

A prominent skeptic of global warming has admitted that climate change is real and now says that the rising levels of greenhouse gases could have a disastrous impact on the world. Richard Muller, who works at the University of California, Berkeley, and Lawrence Berkeley National Lab, said he spent the last two years studying the climate data. He found that the land is 1.6 degrees Fahrenheit warmer than in the 1950s. Muller’s change of heart has made headlines in part because of who funds his research. One-quarter of the $600,000 of his research funding came from the right-wing Charles Koch Foundation.

Skeptic finds he now agrees global warming is real
Houston Chronicle

Two of the Richest People On The Planet

Cancer Risks for Koch Brothers Profits

David and Charles Koch are tied in 18th place on the Forbes Billionaires List. This year's list of Billionaires broke records in size (1,210 billionaires) and total net worth ($4.5 trillion). Each of The Koch Brothers is worth $22 Billion!

The Ed Schultz Show: Koch Brothers and Cancer in Arkansas

Huffington Post: Koch-Owned Georgia-Pacific Plant Linked To High Cancer Rates, Film Alleges

AlterNet: New Film Exposes Connection Between the Kochs and a Small Community Dying of Cancer

Greenpeace: Suffering in the Shadow of Koch’s Dangerous Chemical Plants

Think Progress: Film Alleges Koch Industries’ Dumping of Toxic Chemicals is Killing People in Arkansas

The Nation: The Kochs and Cancer In A Small Town

KPFK Background Briefing: Ian Masters interviews Robert Greenwald

The Young Turks: Koch Brothers Exposed for Cancer Causing Pollution

Thom Hartmann The Big Picture: Koch connection to cancer deaths?

The Thom Hartmann Program: Killer Koch Cancer Connection

Blue Arkansas: Koch Industries Gave Thousands To Mike Ross While Poisoning His Constituents

FireDogLake: Film Shows Epidemic of Cancer Downstream from Koch Industries Plant in Arkansas

Facing South (N.C.): Koch Industries plant linked to cancer epidemic in Arkansas community (video)

The Raw Story: Film exposes cancer epidemic downstream from Koch Industries plant

DeSmogBlog: Koch Brothers Exposed: Cancer Risk In Crossett Arkansas Blamed On Georgia Pacific

The Koch-Cain Connection

IRS Urged To Probe Ties Between Cain Campaign and Billionaire Koch Brothers

8 Nov 2011 - interview with Center for Media and Democracy - 08:00

The campaign of Republican presidential hopeful Herman Cain took another hit on Monday [Nov 7] when a fourth woman emerged to accuse him of sexual harassment in the 1990s. But the allegations of sexual harassment are not the only controversies surrounding Cain. Also on Monday, the Wisconsin-based Center for Media and Democracy filed a complaint asking the Internal Revenue Service to investigate whether one of his top aides has used tens of thousands of dollars from a tax-exempt non-profit organization to fund Cain’s political activities. Citing leaked financial records, the Center says Cain’s campaign manager, Mark Block, used at least $40,000 dollars from his group, Prosperity USA, to pay for Cain’s private jets, air travel and computers when he was exploring a presidential bid. Block founded Prosperity USA just last year. The leaked records cited in the complaint also suggest extensive financial ties between Block’s Prosperity USA, the Cain campaign, and the right-wing advocacy group founded by the billionaire David Koch, Americans for Prosperity. Block stepped down from heading the Wisconsin arm of "Americans for Prosperity" to run Cain’s campaign. We speak with Lisa Graves, executive director of the Center for Media and Democracy, about its request that the IRS to investigate the group’s tax-exempt status, and other ways Block may have been funneling money to political campaigns.

Are the Koch brothers denying your right to vote?

Koch brothers exposed by Robert Greenwald and Brave New Foundation

Through their web of political influence, billionaire political operatives Charles and David Koch have bought access to democracy's lifeblood: free and fair elections. The Kochs have funded efforts to thwart 21 million Americans from voting and Koch dollars helped write and propose voting suppression bills in 38 states.

04:18 - Uploaded to YouTube by brave_new_foundation on Nov 3, 2011
Are the Koch brothers denying your vote?

We can't defeat the Kochs without your help. Don't let these 1 percenters suppress voters.

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Nov 14, 2011 12:50pm
Forum: occupywallstreet Subject: Re: Thanks to the Koch Brothers - Planet Earth IS Suffering!

what's all that got to do with local businessmen in nyc losing thousands of dollars every day, as a direct result of the protestors?

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Nov 15, 2011 9:34am
Forum: occupywallstreet Subject: Re: Thanks to the Koch Brothers - Planet Earth IS Suffering!

Some other headlines from history:

Baghdad Post, March 30, 2003 - "Local Shopkeepers in 'Shock and Awe' Over Falling Profits"

Richmond Dispatch, May 1, 1865 - "Tavern Receipts 'in Ruins' Since Yankee Occupation"

Hiroshima Gazette, August 10, 1945 - "Hoteliers Report Lower Occupancy Since City Destroyed by A-Bomb"

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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: Nov 14, 2011 1:55pm
Forum: occupywallstreet Subject: Re: Thanks to the Koch Brothers - Planet Earth IS Suffering!

Much of NYC is soon going to be underwater. Literally, figuratively, physically, and financially. I'm just saying...

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Nov 14, 2011 2:24pm
Forum: occupywallstreet Subject: Re: Thanks to the Koch Brothers - Planet Earth IS Suffering!

sounds neat! i've always found atlantis fascinating.

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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: Nov 14, 2011 3:22pm
Forum: occupywallstreet Subject: Re: Thanks to the Koch Brothers - Planet Earth IS Suffering!

Ancient Atlantis, as far as I know, didn't have all its infrasturcture underground, and prone to rising sea levels. NYC does! (Copper cables, Fiber Optics cables, gas pipes, steam pipes, sewer pipes, subway mass transit system, etc.).
U.S. Department of the Interior | U.S. Geological Survey
Sea Level Rise Animations
Last modified: Monday, 31-Oct-2011 17:49:32 EDT

• 1 meter NYC sea level rise will cause 496,000 population to be affected. (Total poplulation is 23 million.)
Future Sea Level Changes - animation & data for New York City - 1 MB Flash file

Climate Change Science - U.S. EPA
Global Sea Level Rise Projections to 2100


Past and projected global average sea level. The gray shaded area shows the estimates of sea level change from 1800 to 1870 when measurements are not available. The red line is a reconstruction of sea level change measured by tide gauges with the surrounding shaded area depicting the uncertainty. The green line shows sea level change as measured by satellite. The purple shaded area represents the range of model projections for a medium growth emissions scenario (IPCC SRES A1B). For reference 100mm is about 4 inches. Source: IPCC (2007)

Considering all of these influences, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) estimates that the global average sea level will rise by 7.2 to 23.6 inches (18-59 cm or 0.18- 0.59m) by 2100 (see Figure 1) relative to 1980-1999 under a range of scenarios.

Note that these estimates assume that ice flow from Greenland and Antarctica will continue at the same rates as observed from 1993-2003. The IPCC cautions that these rates could increase or decrease in the future. For example, if ice flow were to increase linearly, in step with global average temperature, the upper range of projected sea level rise by the year 2100 would be 19.2 to 31.6 inches (48-79 cm or 0.48-0.79 m). But current understanding of ice sheet dynamics is too limited to estimate such changes or to provide an upper limit to the amount by which sea level is likely to rise over this century.

According to the IPCC, current model projections indicate substantial variability in future sea level rise between different locations. Some locations could experience sea level rise higher than the global average projection, while others could have a fall in sea level. The same factors that currently cause sea level to rise more rapidly along the Mid-Atlantic and Gulf Coasts, and less rapidly in parts of the Pacific Northwest, are likely to continue. Changes in winds, atmospheric pressure and ocean currents will also cause regional variations in sea level rise - but those variations cannot be reliably predicted.

Over time, more substantial changes in sea level are possible due to the vulnerability of the West Antarctic and Greenland Ice sheets. However, there are significant uncertainties about the magnitude and speed of future changes (IPCC, 2007):
• The West Antarctic Ice Sheet contains enough ice to raise sea level by 5-6 meters (17-20 feet). Possible instabilities in the ice sheet could allow it to slide into the oceans after a sustained warming, or if other factors raised sea level (IPCC, 2007). There is a small chance the collapse of this ice sheet could occur within a few centuries, but the response of the ice sheet to future climate change is uncertain and a subject of debate (IPCC 2007, NRC 2002).

• The Greenland ice sheet contains enough ice to raise sea level about 7 meters (23 feet). Although it is already contributing to sea level rise (from melting), it does not contain the same instabilities as Antarctica that could result in a rapid collapse. Most model projections suggest a gradual melting over millennia related to sustained climate warming (IPCC, 2007).
• 03 Nov 2011 - Carbon emissions soar by 6 per cent in 2010!
Written by Seth Borenstein, AP Science Writer
WASHINGTON -- The global output of heat-trapping carbon dioxide jumped by the biggest amount on record, the U.S. Department of Energy calculated, a sign of how feeble the world's efforts are at slowing man-made global warming.

The new figures for 2010 mean that levels of greenhouse gases are higher than the worst-case scenario outlined by climate experts just four years ago!!!

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Poster: obamadocuments Date: Nov 14, 2011 1:27pm
Forum: occupywallstreet Subject: Re: Thanks to the Koch Brothers - Planet Earth IS Suffering!

"Must see" video for anyone interested on the "Occupy Wall Street" movement.
Individualism & Capitalism vs. Collectivism & Monopolies

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Nov 15, 2011 9:32am
Forum: occupywallstreet Subject: Re: Thanks to the Koch Brothers - Planet Earth IS Suffering!

Wow, downloaded once! I assume that was you?